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Ishman
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Posted - 12/16/2005 :  16:33:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guide on upgrading the hard drive on the P1510D.
The first order of business is to acquire a new hard drive preferably faster and of course larger. You can use some of the drives out of the
IPOD 60GB or even 40GB. I purchased the Toshiba 60 GB OEM drive from the following link:
http://www.nowdirect.com/direct/partInfo/part_detail.tsb?partid=23454 for $174.61 This was the best price for a new drive that I found. That is unless you paid the 150.00 to upgrade from Fujitsu.
But if at the time you were short on cash, here is a solution that works for only a few dollars more.
Once you get the new drive you have two options:
1. Install the new drive and restore with the factory default CD or you can restore from an image file.
2. Use a USB 1.8 in drive storage container (pick one from eBay or other locations for less than $20.00). This offers you the ability to clone your existing drive to the new drive and also
have a portable 30GB storage drive after.

I use Acronis True Image http://www.acronis.com/ to clone my drive to the USB drive. They have a free 15 day version. Then just swap out the drive and you have an instant upgrade.
To swap the drive you must first remove the three screws holding the plate.

Once this is done you can gently lift the drive up and remove the connector from the drive only. It is just slightly snug and should come apart relatively easy.


You will notice that the drive has a plastic cover along the bottom and 4 rubber adhesive feet at each corner (see below). This should be removed and placed on the new drive.
This should be done gently as not to destroy any of the edges. It is a simple procedure. Once this is done you can attach the new drive back to the cable.


A few notes: The drive only attaches one way due to the one round and one rectangular plug features. Notice the label side is facing you when done correctly (1st picture).
Also the 60GB drive is a few mm larger than the 30 GB but it fits fine.
With regard to the portable USB drive make sure you get one for the Toshiba drive and not the Hitachi. The Toshiba has a female connector while the Hitachi has the male.


Ishman


Edited by - Ishman on 12/21/2005 22:48:51

krschee
Junior Member

USA
140 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2005 :  17:17:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
beautifully done as always, ishman.

mine should be delivered today! but i won't be able to play with it until tuesday...i've got new RAM and a new stylus waiting for it. maybe i will do a RAM upgrade guide (but it's pretty foolproof).
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Ishman
Junior Member

147 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2005 :  19:26:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks,
I sure hope you enjoy your new toy. Not going to wait till Christmas !
Niether could I.
The ram should be straight forward, but there is always someone who might mess it up. Not sure how, but anytime you work on a computer there is always that chance.

Ishman
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mr1
Average Member

USA
724 Posts

Posted - 12/17/2005 :  03:09:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Ishman, with my small hard drive there is no doubt that I'll be doing an upgrade in the near future. I'm going to try to hold out for a larger, faster drive.

MR1
5010D-60G HD,512 RAM XPP
12/2005 P1510 30GB 512 XPT
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Ishman
Junior Member

147 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2005 :  22:51:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Let me know if you find a newer drive that is faster and larger. It appears that many of the new ultra portable pc's use the 1.8 inch Toshiba drives. This will eventually push the technology quicker.

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scribbleed
Starting Member

10 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2005 :  23:20:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Ishman for sharing.

What's the speed of the new drive (the link is gone)? And how much faster is the experience?

And is the 15 day trial Acronis sufficient for the cloning. I wouldn't mind paying for it, but if you can do everything with the trial version, I'll take that since it would only be used once.
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Ishman
Junior Member

147 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2005 :  00:42:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I checked the link and they are currently out of the 60gb drives and only have the 30 and 40 gb in stock. You might try another vender but it might cost a little more than mentioned above. Currently all the 1.8 in drives run at 4200 RPM. I just upgraded mycapacity from 30 to 60.

Thanks

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arebelspy
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173 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2006 :  00:22:12  Show Profile  Send arebelspy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Can anyone tell me the exact model # of the 30gb drive that is being removed? I might have a use for it and if so would replace it with a 60gb, otherwise probably not. :)

Thanks,
arebelspy
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Ishman
Junior Member

147 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2006 :  06:00:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is the harddrive

Brand: Toshiba
Model: MK3006GAL,HDD1442,1.8",5.0MM H
Name: 30GB (MK3006GAL) 1.8 inch 4200rpm 2M Notebook Hard Drive


Hope this answers your question.

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arebelspy
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Posted - 01/19/2006 :  12:03:53  Show Profile  Send arebelspy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
That's perfect, thanks. Really appreciate you taking the time to look that up and mark it down for me. :)

If anyone replaces their HD with a bigger (40 or 60 GB) one and wants to sell their 30gb for not too much, let me know. :)

-arebelspy
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Avatar
Starting Member

4 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2006 :  08:06:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it me or does the 4200RPM 30GB hard drive is really slow when booting up?
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Avatar
Starting Member

4 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2006 :  08:08:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Avatar

Is it me or is the 4200RPM 30GB hard drive really slow when booting up?

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TPadden
New Member

USA
68 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2006 :  11:08:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ishman

Let me know if you find a newer drive that is faster and larger.


When I upgraded my 5020D to a 7200rpm drive - the computer got noticably HOTTER and the drive drew more power. I'm going with the larger but same speed drive - the 1510 is hot enough as it is. Seems NowDirect has them back in stock.

https://www.nowdirect.com/direct/partInfo/part_detail.tsb?partid=27195


Tom
Gainesville, Mo.

Edited by - TPadden on 02/19/2006 11:12:48
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Ishman
Junior Member

147 Posts

Posted - 04/26/2006 :  11:54:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here a some new live links to get the harddrive.


http://www.compumusic.com/i34688.htm

Only 168.00 here.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=T60MK6006H&c=fr&pid=fd97c3547d588a5ad00cda5718457d4772393be090898e083c7ef81105633ea9

http://www.nowdirect.com/direct/partInfo/part_detail.tsb?prcpart=TOSHDD-1544


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mr1
Average Member

USA
724 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2006 :  02:16:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1.8 inch 80GB Toshiba HD announced, still 4200 rpm.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/04/28/small_is_beautiful/

I'm trying to find a price. my 30 GB drive is about full.

UPDATE: Sorry, research indicates that this drive was announced last summer. Guess it's just about to make it to market @ ~$399.

MR1
5010D-60G HD,1GB RAM XPP
12/2005 P1510 30GB 512 XPT BT

Edited by - mr1 on 05/10/2006 23:32:25
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gtsbiker
Junior Member

USA
268 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2006 :  21:50:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this is interesting quote "The advantages of reduced platter diameters are quicker access time and faster rotation speed, both of which are pillars for performance. "

"The bright side of the Toshiba drives is performance that leaves the Hitachi drives in the dust. While still mediocre when compared to 3.5" or 2.5" drives, the 18.8 ms average access time and up to 25 MB/s data transfer rates are fast for a 1.8" drive. Even better is the fact that Toshiba achieves these superior numbers by using the same basic ingredients: 4,200 RPM spindle speed and 2 MB cache."

Edited by - gtsbiker on 05/16/2006 21:53:52
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Jim_joh
Starting Member

USA
15 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2006 :  22:44:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ishman, I want to say how much I appreciated your instructions. It was so easy and the pics helped. It took me about 30 min. after I formated the 60 gig Toshiba harddrive and everything is perfect including having a 30 gig external hard drive. It is people like you that makes the computer world interesting and fun. I am 83 years old and still learning every day. Thanks again jim_joh
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kindall
Junior Member

USA
145 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2006 :  16:01:02  Show Profile  Visit kindall's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Saw Seagate has announced a 120GB 1.8" hard disk for later this year.

Jerry Kindall - Bellevue, Washington, USA
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arebelspy
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173 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2006 :  00:34:11  Show Profile  Send arebelspy an AOL message  Reply with Quote
And they'll all be snatched up for Video Players (by Apple and others), making any single ones you can buy prohibitively expensive for the time being... Ah well, soon.. ;)

-arebelspy
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MikeB
Starting Member

Germany
20 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2006 :  01:12:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have bought a 60GB Toshiba harddrive to be able to experiment with the OS for EUR 120.00 at alternate.de. Problem is that I could not get the same model as was in the P1510 which is Toshiba MK6006GAH and bought a MK6008GAH which has a different connector (much smaller). I am trying to find out whether there is an adapter, waiting for response from Toshiba technical support. The drive itself is also smaller that the old one at the same capacity.

Update: According to Toshiba support there is no adapter available yet. Fujitsu told me that this harddisk would not fit. Looking at pictures on various websites, a drive called MK8007GAH might work (80GB), but they are difficult to get, usually several weeks delivery.

Michael

Edited by - MikeB on 09/27/2006 06:46:00
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nijel
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170 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2006 :  15:36:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just received this drive:
http://cgi.ebay.com/60-gig-IPOD-MK6006GAH-Hard-Drive_W0QQitemZ130032146375QQihZ003QQcategoryZ90964QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130032146375. Very, very fast shipping. The drive is great.
Running triple booting system now.
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AK3802
Starting Member

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2006 :  04:50:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are quite a few brands of external 1.8" 60Gb USB drives

http://www.nextag.com/1.8-drive-hard-60gb/search-html

Transcend also has an external drive.
I understand that the upgrade drive must be Toshiba but does anyone know which external USB drives have the Toshiba harddrive in them?
Is it possible to exchange the drives? (upgrading the P1510D and then using the 30Gb as external drive instead)
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nijel
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170 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2006 :  21:46:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would be a lot cheaper to upgrade the internal drive and put the old one in $15 USB 1.8" HDD encloser for Toshiba hdd's.
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AK3802
Starting Member

Netherlands
7 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  05:22:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nijel

Would be a lot cheaper to upgrade the internal drive and put the old one in $15 USB 1.8" HDD encloser for Toshiba hdd's.



Just did that :-) The Transcend drive has the Hitachi drive inside and opening any of them voids the warranty.
I bought the MK6006GAH on eBay, after making the mistake to order the ZIF version MK6008GAH first. I was able to cancel that order.
Indeed there are plenty of 1.8" enclosures.
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airline
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4 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2006 :  03:03:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been trying unsuccessfully to do the 60gb upgrade. I can't get it to happen. Everything goes fine until I put the cloned drive in the P1510D and then the BIOS won't recognize it. It was a former Ipod drive from ebay so all I can think of is that it is locked to ipods. It works fine via USB, but won't work as the primary drive.

I've tried re-partitioning and two brands of cloning software.

Thoughts?
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NuovoTech
Senior Member Member

USA
1312 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2006 :  06:43:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you sure the primary partition is active? Check in DOS mode with FDISK, which will activate it if needed.
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